How To Fix S#417 - You are not authorized to derive from original role &

SAP Error Message - Details

• Message type: E = Error

• Message class: S# -

• Message number: 417

• Message text: You are not authorized to derive from original role &

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• What is the cause and solution for SAP error message S#417 - You are not authorized to derive from original role & ?

  The SAP error message S#417, which states "You are not authorized to derive from original role &," typically occurs when a user attempts to create a derived role from an original role for which they do not have the necessary authorizations. This is a common issue in SAP systems where role-based access control is implemented.
  Cause:
  
  Lack of Authorization: The user does not have the required authorization to derive roles from the specified original role. This could be due to missing authorizations in the user's profile or role.
  Role Restrictions: The original role may have restrictions that prevent certain users from deriving new roles from it.
  Profile Issues: The user might not be assigned to a profile that includes the necessary permissions to perform role derivation.
  
  Solution:
  
  
  Check User Authorizations:
  
  Use transaction code SU53 immediately after the error occurs to analyze the authorization check. This will show which authorization objects are missing.
  Review the user's roles and profiles to ensure they have the necessary permissions.
  
  
  
  Role Maintenance:
  
  If you have the necessary permissions, you can check the original role in transaction PFCG (Role Maintenance) to see if there are any restrictions or specific authorizations that need to be granted.
  Ensure that the user has the authorization object S_USER_AUTH with the appropriate activity (like 03 for display or 02 for change) for the original role.
  
  
  
  Consult with Security Team:
  
  If you do not have the necessary permissions to change roles or authorizations, contact your SAP security team or administrator. They can review the user's authorizations and make the necessary adjustments.
  
  
  
  Role Derivation Settings:
  
  Check the settings for role derivation in the system. Sometimes, there are specific configurations that restrict who can derive roles from certain original roles.
  
  
  
  Documentation and Training:
  
  Ensure that users are trained on the role derivation process and understand the authorization requirements.
  
  
  
  Related Information:
  
  Authorization Objects: Familiarize yourself with relevant authorization objects such as S_USER_AUTH, S_USER_PRO, and S_USER_AGR that govern role and authorization management.
  SAP Notes: Check for any SAP Notes related to role management and authorization issues that might provide additional insights or solutions.
  Transaction Codes: Common transaction codes related to role management include:
  
  PFCG - Role Maintenance
  SU01 - User Maintenance
  SU53 - Authorization Check Analysis
  
  
  
  By following these steps, you should be able to identify the cause of the error and implement a solution to resolve it.