Do you have any question about this error?
Message type: E = Error
Message class: 5A - Basis Personnel Management
Message number: 191
Message text: Employee group/subgroup differ for person and position
Since SAP believes that this specific error message is 'self-explanatory,' no more information has been given.The majority of messages in the SAP system have a message text, however this is frequently insufficient to comprehend or resolve the problem.
To make things easier, more detailed information is frequently added to describe the issue, how to fix it, and the necessary steps or configuration modifications.
Unfortunately, there isn't any extra information in this error notice.
First, use our AnswerBot below to get a possible cause and solution (requires a premium subscription).
Also, review the in-depth Common Questions & Answers listed below; you could discover a solution there or be able to connect with others who have faced similar challenges.
You can also try searching the SAP support portal (support.sap.com) but you need a special user ID to access it. It is possible that an SAP support note exists that provides additional details about the mistake or even steps for fixing it.
5A191
- Employee group/subgroup differ for person and position ?The SAP error message 5A191 indicates that there is a mismatch between the employee group/subgroup defined for a person and the employee group/subgroup defined for the position they are assigned to. This error typically occurs during actions such as hiring, transferring, or changing positions in the SAP Human Capital Management (HCM) module.
Cause:
- Mismatch in Employee Group/Subgroup: The employee group and subgroup assigned to the employee do not match those defined for the position in the organizational structure.
- Configuration Issues: There may be incorrect configuration in the employee group/subgroup settings in the system.
- Data Entry Errors: Incorrect data entry during the creation or modification of employee or position records.
Solution:
Check Employee Master Data:
- Go to the employee's master data (transaction code PA20 or PA30) and verify the employee group and subgroup assigned to the employee.
Check Position Data:
- Access the position data (transaction code PP03) and verify the employee group and subgroup assigned to the position.
Align Employee and Position Data:
- If there is a mismatch, you can either:
- Change the employee's group/subgroup to match the position's group/subgroup.
- Change the position's group/subgroup to match the employee's group/subgroup, if appropriate.
Review Organizational Structure:
- Ensure that the organizational structure is correctly set up and that the employee and position are correctly assigned within that structure.
Consult with HR or SAP Administrator:
- If you are unsure about making changes, consult with your HR department or SAP administrator to ensure that the changes align with company policies and procedures.
Related Information:
By following these steps, you should be able to resolve the error message 5A191 and ensure that the employee and position data are consistent within the SAP system.
Get instant SAP help. Start your 7-day free trial now.
5A190
Change HR master data
What causes this issue? One of the following cases has occurred: In the entry PLOGI PRELU in integration control, you have chosen to carry out PD tra...
5A189
Change for person & extends too far into past
What causes this issue? You are working with active integration between the PD and the HR Master Data Management. You must consider the effects of yo...
5A192
Position and person must belong to the same controlling area and co.code
Self-Explanatory Message Since SAP believes that this specific error message is 'self-explanatory,' no more information has been given.The majority of...
5A193
Related person &1 has employee group/subgroup &2 / &3
Self-Explanatory Message Since SAP believes that this specific error message is 'self-explanatory,' no more information has been given.The majority of...
Click on this link to search all SAP messages.